Saints' back-rower Matt Whitley sits down in the Totally Wicked Stadium stands with Sky Sports' Jenna Brooks and Jon Wilkin on the latest episode of 'The Bench' podcast.
Currently out injured and working hard on his rehab, Whitley on the half hour programme talks about the setback and wanting to come back in good form.
The 28-year-old also opens up about returning to his boyhood club St.Helens, and how difficult it was for him to be told he would not be kept on and would need to seek a different route.
Our #19 also reflects on his time in France with Catalans Dragons, and even gives his reasons why he believes that the back-row position is the toughest on the field!